Las Vegas is the best place to play video poker in the world. There are hundreds of machines in the Las Vegas Valley that return 100 percent or more when betting five coins and playing perfect strategy.
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None of these devices are located on the Las Vegas Strip. Video poker players will need to take a trip downtown or to locals casinos to find the best video poker games in Las Vegas.
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Where to go for best value video poker in Las Vegas
Station Casinos is home to most of the 100 percent or more video poker games in Las Vegas. These are advertised as Optimum Play machines.
These can be found at Red Rock Resort, Green Valley Ranch, Palace Station, Santa Fe Station, BoulderStation, as well as other properties under the Station Casinos umbrella. Many are found just inside entrances. Some are even in nonsmoking sections.
Station Casinos offers 100.76 percent Deuces Wild at many of its locations. The pay table returns 25 on a deuces royal flush, 15 on five of a kind, 9 on a straight flush, and 5 of four of a kind. This game is spread in the $.25 denomination.
Many Station Casinos properties also spread 10/7/5 Double Bonus, as well as two other Deuces Wild pay tables that return over 100 percent. These games are available in denominations up to $1.
Boulder Station and Santa Fe Station also spread 100.65 percent Joker Poker where four of a kind returns 20 to 1. Kings or better is the lowest pay on these Joker Poker machines. These games are only available in $.25 denominations.
Palms is another Nevada casino where players will find Full-Pay Deuces Wild. This game is only spread in quarters. Palms also spreads 10/7/5 Double Bonus Poker and 10/6 Double Double Bonus Poker. These games are available in quarters and half-dollars.
Downtown Las Vegas video poker
Some video poker players prefer downtown Las Vegas.
El Cortez offers Full-Pay Deuces Wild. Downtown gamblers will also find 10/7/5 Double Bonus Poker at Main Street Station, Plaza and El Cortez at the $.25 denomination. Las Vegas Club spreads $.25 and $.50 Full-Pay Joker Poker that returns 20 on quads, 7 on a full house, and 5 on a flush.
When to play games that offer lower returns
It can be better to play a lower return game due to the quality of the players club.
For example, games that return less than 100 percent at Station Casinos pay 0.3 percent in cash back or free play.
Regular players receive mailers that include multiplier days that can push the game above 100 percent. Seniors receive multipliers every Wednesday at Station Casinos.
Players visiting from other states may want to consider mailers and comps over immediate returns. Playing the 100 percent machines at places like Palms and Station Casinos are certain to damage the quality of mailers that are sent out.
Some players that exclusively give action to 100 percent video poker machines will likely stop receiving any offers by mail.
For the Majestic Star 1 and 2, which I monitor, 13-4-3 bonus deuces does appear a number of times in the vpfree2 listings because Atomic Fever, Dice Fever and Double Super Times Pay versions are all over 99%.
Progressives are an interesting issue. The Majestic Star has a $1 progressive with the best base game at 98.12% (9-6 TDB). Because the feed rate is 1% this bank is often over 99% so it is listed. The 25c progressive is similar but the feed rate is 0.8% with the best base game at 97.4% (8-5 BP Dlx). Usually this game is under 99% so I do not list it but I have played it at just over the 100% level.
As to all the new unusual games, THANK YOU Wizard and Gary Koehler and everybody else for all the help analyzing those games.
I still have not got a clue about 'Split Card' video poker.
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I strongly disagree.
VPFree2 is run by volunteers. To do a good job of monitoring--- even limiting yourself to 98% or 99% games --- requires a very large amount of knowledge. Making sure you know every pay schedule for every game multiplies the knowledge needed several fold. And do you consider nickel single line different from nickel Triple Play?
I would be qualified to monitor a casino for over-99% games --- not that I'm ever going to volunteer --- although doing a perfect job would be very difficult. I am nowhere near qualified enough to know which nickel deuces wild game returns 96.3% which would make it reportable because the other nickel deuces wild games there only return 96.1%.
Especially if you include all of the new variations --- WOO website lists maybe 200 video poker games --- for each denom. Many of those games come in dozens of game types (i.e. JoB, BP, DB, DDB, TDB, etc.), each with their own variety of pay schedules within that game type. That is MULTIPLE THOUSANDS of different games+types and several have five or six different pay schedules. And you have to know them ALL because in any given casino a 94.3% game might be the best for a particular denomination.
On some All Star Poker machines, with separate tabs for perhaps 15 different game types (such as Ultimate X, or Quick Quads, or Multi Strike, or Trade Up Poker, or Ten Play, or Super Times Pay, or Double Super Times Pay, or blah blah blah. Each of these tabs offers several games for each denom. All told, maybe 300 different games ON ONE MACHINE. If you're knowledgeable about video poker, it's very possible to quickly conclude that all of these are less than 99%. If you have to record all 300 of them, and compare each one with other machines around the casino, you're talking about a BIG, BIG task.
Even if he took all his notes with him, I suggest Shack would have a devil of a time listing the returns of the best return for every game type for every denom for a large casino. And even if someone like Shack COULD perform that task, it's an unpaid position and things change and no matter how conscientiously you do the job, somebody will want more.
Not to mention that if you're spending that many hours checking machines and recording results, your actions will be noticed and several casinos will have security run you off for this. With maybe a little backrooming thrown in along the way for good measure. Conceivably a player could lose his welcome at a casino for providing a free service to a bunch of people he's never met, never going to meet, and who will be dissatisfied with whatever he comes up with.
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
I just dislike how they only try to report the best paying games and leave out other lower paying games ESPECIALLY if they're a higher denom that's not being recorded. I get its a volunteer job, but it creates this notion that this casino doesn't have X denom games (which IMO is more important than good paytables).
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
I just dislike how they only try to report the best paying games and leave out other lower paying games ESPECIALLY if they're a higher denom that's not being recorded. I get its a volunteer job, but it creates this notion that this casino doesn't have X denom games (which IMO is more important than good paytables).
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IMO VPfree should go away.
I realize we have different perspectives but I'll respectfully disagree.
In my case I get to be in Vegas for maybe 80 hours at a time at most. I typically play -EV games ( I believe I am lifetime ahead at real poker even though the casino makes money on the games I play in ) but at least with VP Free I can allocate most of my video poker time where I have more of a fighting chance. I'm sure for pros having more information available to the public is annoying but if it causes some players to go to places they wouldn't otherwise visit to bang away at let's say a 99.5% machine that seems to be in most folks best interests.
And for those who wonder why I don't just play poker all the time, I typically am on vacation with friends who don't really like to play that much poker.
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
That sentence is absolutely true.
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But there are other games where it isn't so clear --- such as Deuces Wild pay schedules.Vpfree2 Laughlin
These can be found at Red Rock Resort, Green Valley Ranch, Palace Station, Santa Fe Station, BoulderStation, as well as other properties under the Station Casinos umbrella. Many are found just inside entrances. Some are even in nonsmoking sections.
Station Casinos offers 100.76 percent Deuces Wild at many of its locations. The pay table returns 25 on a deuces royal flush, 15 on five of a kind, 9 on a straight flush, and 5 of four of a kind. This game is spread in the $.25 denomination.
Many Station Casinos properties also spread 10/7/5 Double Bonus, as well as two other Deuces Wild pay tables that return over 100 percent. These games are available in denominations up to $1.
Boulder Station and Santa Fe Station also spread 100.65 percent Joker Poker where four of a kind returns 20 to 1. Kings or better is the lowest pay on these Joker Poker machines. These games are only available in $.25 denominations.
Palms is another Nevada casino where players will find Full-Pay Deuces Wild. This game is only spread in quarters. Palms also spreads 10/7/5 Double Bonus Poker and 10/6 Double Double Bonus Poker. These games are available in quarters and half-dollars.
Downtown Las Vegas video poker
Some video poker players prefer downtown Las Vegas.
El Cortez offers Full-Pay Deuces Wild. Downtown gamblers will also find 10/7/5 Double Bonus Poker at Main Street Station, Plaza and El Cortez at the $.25 denomination. Las Vegas Club spreads $.25 and $.50 Full-Pay Joker Poker that returns 20 on quads, 7 on a full house, and 5 on a flush.
When to play games that offer lower returns
It can be better to play a lower return game due to the quality of the players club.
For example, games that return less than 100 percent at Station Casinos pay 0.3 percent in cash back or free play.
Regular players receive mailers that include multiplier days that can push the game above 100 percent. Seniors receive multipliers every Wednesday at Station Casinos.
Players visiting from other states may want to consider mailers and comps over immediate returns. Playing the 100 percent machines at places like Palms and Station Casinos are certain to damage the quality of mailers that are sent out.
Some players that exclusively give action to 100 percent video poker machines will likely stop receiving any offers by mail.
For the Majestic Star 1 and 2, which I monitor, 13-4-3 bonus deuces does appear a number of times in the vpfree2 listings because Atomic Fever, Dice Fever and Double Super Times Pay versions are all over 99%.
Progressives are an interesting issue. The Majestic Star has a $1 progressive with the best base game at 98.12% (9-6 TDB). Because the feed rate is 1% this bank is often over 99% so it is listed. The 25c progressive is similar but the feed rate is 0.8% with the best base game at 97.4% (8-5 BP Dlx). Usually this game is under 99% so I do not list it but I have played it at just over the 100% level.
As to all the new unusual games, THANK YOU Wizard and Gary Koehler and everybody else for all the help analyzing those games.
I still have not got a clue about 'Split Card' video poker.
Vpfree2 Pala
I strongly disagree.
VPFree2 is run by volunteers. To do a good job of monitoring--- even limiting yourself to 98% or 99% games --- requires a very large amount of knowledge. Making sure you know every pay schedule for every game multiplies the knowledge needed several fold. And do you consider nickel single line different from nickel Triple Play?
I would be qualified to monitor a casino for over-99% games --- not that I'm ever going to volunteer --- although doing a perfect job would be very difficult. I am nowhere near qualified enough to know which nickel deuces wild game returns 96.3% which would make it reportable because the other nickel deuces wild games there only return 96.1%.
Especially if you include all of the new variations --- WOO website lists maybe 200 video poker games --- for each denom. Many of those games come in dozens of game types (i.e. JoB, BP, DB, DDB, TDB, etc.), each with their own variety of pay schedules within that game type. That is MULTIPLE THOUSANDS of different games+types and several have five or six different pay schedules. And you have to know them ALL because in any given casino a 94.3% game might be the best for a particular denomination.
On some All Star Poker machines, with separate tabs for perhaps 15 different game types (such as Ultimate X, or Quick Quads, or Multi Strike, or Trade Up Poker, or Ten Play, or Super Times Pay, or Double Super Times Pay, or blah blah blah. Each of these tabs offers several games for each denom. All told, maybe 300 different games ON ONE MACHINE. If you're knowledgeable about video poker, it's very possible to quickly conclude that all of these are less than 99%. If you have to record all 300 of them, and compare each one with other machines around the casino, you're talking about a BIG, BIG task.
Even if he took all his notes with him, I suggest Shack would have a devil of a time listing the returns of the best return for every game type for every denom for a large casino. And even if someone like Shack COULD perform that task, it's an unpaid position and things change and no matter how conscientiously you do the job, somebody will want more.
Not to mention that if you're spending that many hours checking machines and recording results, your actions will be noticed and several casinos will have security run you off for this. With maybe a little backrooming thrown in along the way for good measure. Conceivably a player could lose his welcome at a casino for providing a free service to a bunch of people he's never met, never going to meet, and who will be dissatisfied with whatever he comes up with.
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
I just dislike how they only try to report the best paying games and leave out other lower paying games ESPECIALLY if they're a higher denom that's not being recorded. I get its a volunteer job, but it creates this notion that this casino doesn't have X denom games (which IMO is more important than good paytables).
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
I just dislike how they only try to report the best paying games and leave out other lower paying games ESPECIALLY if they're a higher denom that's not being recorded. I get its a volunteer job, but it creates this notion that this casino doesn't have X denom games (which IMO is more important than good paytables).
Vpfree2 Database
IMO VPfree should go away.
I realize we have different perspectives but I'll respectfully disagree.
In my case I get to be in Vegas for maybe 80 hours at a time at most. I typically play -EV games ( I believe I am lifetime ahead at real poker even though the casino makes money on the games I play in ) but at least with VP Free I can allocate most of my video poker time where I have more of a fighting chance. I'm sure for pros having more information available to the public is annoying but if it causes some players to go to places they wouldn't otherwise visit to bang away at let's say a 99.5% machine that seems to be in most folks best interests.
And for those who wonder why I don't just play poker all the time, I typically am on vacation with friends who don't really like to play that much poker.
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
That sentence is absolutely true.
Vpfree2 Forums
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But there are other games where it isn't so clear --- such as Deuces Wild pay schedules.Vpfree2 Laughlin
And I wasn't exaggerating when I said there can be 300 or more games on one All Star Poker machine. that's a LOT of recording of information, transcribing it, and checking back and forth when you find similar games on other machines in a casino. And the Super Star machines have a somewhat overlapping --- but not identical --- list of possible games.
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